ZackieValentine (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

GUNSHOTS BY COMPUTER!

riggznit (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

patginsd Sorry to say, as a jack of all trades, Anything with a screw in it can be unscrewed anything with a bolt in it can be unbolted. Hand counted ballots have had numerous accounts of "forgery". Look it up!!! The way of the future is to move forward make it better not throw it away. Stiffling innovation and subjecting fear is all this is accomplishing. Paper trail buys you nothing? Yet you want paper ballots? Hello? You are either ignorant of the facts or out of your gord.

Maverynthia (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

The only problem is I doubt they are going to count the paper the computer could still have that first vote in it's memory as your vote and they aren't going to check the paper to make sure you voted that way.

ejlorden (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

It's not really that scary. All these scenarios are based on the loading of a malicious piece of software through a USB key. That could be eliminated through the use of encryption with a password, selected and entered by the election official. Now, as always with any security system, you have to trust someone at sometime. This is true, even of paper ballots. You trust that the people counting the votes are not adding or removing ballots.

iRazd (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Micro-Soft Windows. anymore reason to switch? Voting should not be done with Electronics...let alone with a M$ OS running it.

clockmouse (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Very informative and scary!

riggznit (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

My question is 2 seconds? How long was the prework and did they forget to tally? Seems like a Micheal Moore story. If you give me the software (3+ months)and access to the vault I could be rich. Red team attack. I don't believe that there is a 100% method and corruption in politics is a time honored tradition in America, attack the corruption!? Not rap music!! Paper???, who here could manipulate paper?

WizardTom2 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

in a 49/51% climate they only need to steal 2 out of every one hundred votes. This hack represents only one tiny fraction of the vote stealing systems they have in place. If you reveal and count ALL of the stolen votes (as we've seen in the past) there is still the problem that... Bush and Co succeeded in the firing of swing State attorney generals while attempting to replace ALL of them at once... because STATE ATTORNEY GENERALS CAN DECIDE NOT TO SEE VOTE FRAUD CASES and decide elections.

jlsb1 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

no they'll just use the one provided, but who checks that those aren't infected by design...

patginsd (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Sorry to say, as a computer programmer, I KNOW that EVEN if you check the paper printout and it matches what you tried to vote for, you STILL don't know what the machines recorded as your votes. A paper trail buys you NOTHING. Your vote has become an electronic trail. Can YOU read electronic trails??? KISS YOUR VOTES GOODBYE. DEMAND PAPER BALLOTS HAND-COUNTED AT THE POLLS! NO MOVING THE BALLOTS BEFORE THEY ARE COUNTED IN PUBLIC AND REPORTED IN PUBLIC.