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Luyihan (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
I think your talking about normal farms tha's old style, however, in this video, it's talking about factory farming, which is basicly, "fit as many animals as you can in little spaces." I doubt you were born, and raised on a factory farm, did you ever see a chicken without a beak in your farm? if you didn't, your probably not talking about factory farms, cuz they cut off the beaks of chicken so they don't fight eachother over territory.
susieq332 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
newholland, 1st off why would you even be Proud to be a 'farmer'?? 2nd, what is wrong with you? 1 animal that dies is 1 to many!! i live on a farm, that takes in unwanted animals, no animal is ever killed, they live their life peacefully and happy here. i am a proud vegetarian. you need to get some facts and stop living in the stone age!!!
meangreenpm (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Have YOU not heard how much grain and water it takes to raise livestock on these massive scales of production where there is an enormous amount of waste and OVER production of animals and yet people are indeed starving in this world while we waste these resources?? I can argue this to death with you and I will win. Which is precisely why California passed Prop 2 on Tuesday. People are realizing that unfortunately this IS the standard FOR NOW... but not forever!
newholland8160 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
have you not herd of the world food shortages?? i have seen one of these factory farms over in Germany and i have never seen a cleaner place in my life!!! it would put some of our on farms too shame!! and for your info i am a farmer! and factor farming is just a bigger scale than what we have here! yea these videos do make it look bad but its not all like that!!!!
meangreenpm (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Food would run out? Get real! Why dont you spend 5 minutes on Humane Society or Farm Sanctuarys websites? Theres plenty of this footage & people are sick of animals being treated this way. You need to open your eyes and quit protecting corporate greed. Youre crazy to want to help fatten their wallets and give this a pass. And home farmers who are losing their jobs to these factories find you offensive. They dont treat their animals like this. This, is Factory Farming and its horrible.
newholland8160 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
this is not the reality of farming!!! you really have to go and see a farm before yous start commenting! and btw if it wasn't for factory farming there would not be enough food in the world for every one! if it wasn't for factory farming these animals would not be born in the first place!!! so for all you city people who thin this isn't right fuck of and live on biscuits are something!!!!!
BlurOfLight (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Yup, yes on 2 for me too...
repenney (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
I just can't believe these videos. I mean the cruelty that is endemic to these factory farm situations. I'm glad HSUS and Mercy for Animals is exposing these crimes. It makes me sick to think that Steve Mendell, the owner of Westland/Hallmark Slaughterhouse in Chino, lives in a multi-million dollar oceanfront house in Corona del Mar while his workers abuse helpless animals. I'm glad they were convicted of cruelty. Plus they put tainted food into the system. Just sickening! I'm voting Yes on 2!
meangreenpm (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Maug91, I usually find that people who were actually raised on farms HATE these factory farms b/c that is not at all how they conducted business for themselves. The fact that you can watch this video and pretend it doesn't happen is astonishing. Why don't you google and watch the Iowa /Hormel Pig Abuse
video that was ALL over CNN last month and then say this doesn't happen.
muag91 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
I was born, raised, and live on a farm. Have fattened cattle and hogs at one time or another. I have seen livestock get sick, injured, and die. Stuff happens on a farm no matter how good the operator. Are there some problems out there, sure, but it's not the norm. My comments about visiting a farm is toward the sane thinking people out there and not the people with an agenda. |
