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curien1000 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Do you mean thugs like in the Palmer Raids, or do you mean more like in the Ludlow Massacre & Haymarket Riots? Remember those thugs forcing their way at the Pullman Strikes? America's memory is so short...
curien1000 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Its a good thing that the secret ballot isn't being taken away AT ALL then...
curien1000 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
First of all there haven't been any results - its a bill, not a law.
Second of all, I'll repeat my original question HAVE YOU ACTUALLY READ IT?
Third of all, it DOES NOT remove secret ballots
Fourth - where did I say anything about "stated intentions?" I said read the actual legislation instead of listening to partisans (far-left, far-right, who cares about radicals?)
BTW, when you say "google it" were you hoping I would think the Heritage Foundation was an objective source?
jb8402 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Even far left Lib George McGovern is against this bill, for the exact reasons I stated above, it would remove secret ballots and encourage intimidation. (google it)
Perhaps if you concerned yourself with results of such legislation, rather than the stated good intentions, you would see it too.
msrooth (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
This should be easy -- employees should be free to join an organization on the job. And no one should be afraid of employees bargaining with employers for fair pay and benefits. Otherwise, you end up with falling wages, disappearing benefits, no job security....oh wait! That's what we have now.
thompsfloyd (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
never did I claim that employers who infringe on an employees rights is O.K. It's just not a fair statement to say that all non union employers are like this.
any misinformation is harmful, as you said.
I am not sure what you are getting at with the last statement though.
curien1000 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
lol - it doesn't "remove" secret ballots - have you even read the proposed bill?
curien1000 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
lol - I'm sure that was a literal description of actual events...
inconceivable44 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
the employee free choice act does not take away the secret ballot, it allows the workers to choose if they want majority sign up or a secret ballot. right now, all the power is in the hands of the boss, all the decisions are made by the boss. wouldn't it be nice if the worker got to choose for once? right now all the power is in the hands of the corporations and look at our economy - worst income inequality since the 20s. it's time workers got some power to balance this out. UNION YES!
PMGYT (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Employees already have the right to choose to form a union by secret ballot. The Employee Free Choice Act takes away the right to a secret ballot and allows unionization with a majority sign-up of union authorizations that employees can be intimidated by the union into providing. Some of the other provisions of the act are good, but I'm opposed to getting rid of secret ballots for unionization. |
