mizofan (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

If the order was to shoot down why keep asking if the order still stands? Why wasn't it simply shot down? The continued question makes much more sense if it was a no shoot down order. The planes had been scrambled, yet no plane was officially shot down. Certainly the (questionable) Pentagon- hitting plane wasn't shot down. There was plenty of time. The 9/11 Commission ignored Mineta's (and others') testimony indicating the times of Cheney + military awareness at various stages of 9/11.

AmericasFan (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I don't know much about JFK so I won't go there. But Cheney was never in charge of NORAD. All of those drills were outside the country. NORAD was meant to intercept soviets because of the cold war. NORAD wasn't meant to intercept inside this country.I guess you also believe Elvis is alive right.

tigerone1970 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I just need to know one single thing: did Dick Cheney order NORAD to stand down? Neither Hamilton nor Mineta say the obvious thing or spell it out so there is no ambiguity. Just asking, for the record.

MixedDude8 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

everytime a 9/11 occurs, whether big scale or small scale, more civil liberties are taken away. as a matter of fact a news station in the UK just announced that there is a possible 9/11... omg.... wake up or just continue living in ur dream world. its a scary world out here once u realize whats happening

MixedDude8 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

funny how JFK's personal secret agent was told to step down just like our beloved cheney did to our NORAD. whenever they drill they would complete 100% accuracy of foiling hijacks on more than 100 planes but on that day they could not even stop 4. u can keep defending cheney all u want he doesnt give a shit about you. better yet just wait til u receieve the biometric ID chips implants. they are going to use it on the illegals first then there's no stopping them. bush gave a speech on it 6-6-06

redletterchurch (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

How do we absolutely know what the 'orders' were? The target had to have been known to know that the plane was 50...40...30...20...10 miles out. Were fighters really in shoot-down range? Who was the young man? Has he been interviewed? How did he know where the plane was? Where was Dr. Rice when this was occuring? Were the terrorists ordering US personnel to implement key aspects of 9/11? Did they threaten ominous consequences for non-compliance? I don't know...but I worry.

AmericasFan (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

He was saying that the plane that was ordered to shoot down whatever hit the pentagon was 50 miles out was 40 miles out. In other words the plane ordered to shoot down flight 77 was still pretty far away from the pentagon by the time the pentagon was struck. That is what is in question. When Cheney said "ofcourse the orders still stand" he meant the order of shooting down flight 77. CT jerkoffs obviously only hear what they want to hear and turn it into their own little fantasy.

worldchangin (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

It could have been a do the hokey kokey order for all I care dickshit- its not the order but the fact that RUMSFELD KNEW the destination. He knew where it was going. Noone else did! So, MORON, IDIOT, are you gonna say sorry? But if you wanna talk about that, if the orders stood(sht dwn), then why wasnt it shot down? BTW I am not 'conspiracy idiots' I am one person who can clearly see that there is more than what simply meets the eye in this event. Go back to your microwave meals boy

AmericasFan (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

He was sworn in January of 2001.

AmericasFan (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

The event in question is a shoot down order not a stand down order you fucking moron. It's obvious you conspiracy idiots have a hearing problem.